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bindweed's avatar

This part felt like an ah-ha moment for me:

"People with more social support and positive interpersonal relationships, including psychotherapy, tend to gain more from the medications."

As someone whose best experiences with anti-depressants have fit the "emotional blunting" story, I can see that it might have been a socially and emotionally impoverished life that caused the impact of the drug to be blunting rather than the start of some life-changingly positive emotional journey. Thinking back, the people I remember telling me that antidepressants "saved their life" or were otherwise super-positive have all been people who lived with loving romantic partners. I'm sure that's far from 100%, but it makes sense that antidepressants would work for some people who have love and support available but aren't responding to it due to the depression.

"The evidence for neuroplasticity is currently still up for debate. But the hypothesis that antidepressants alter how readily the brain learns from experience by facilitating neuroplasticity remains a leading candidate for why they work."

I do feel deeply doubtful about this "neuroplasticity" explanation. For instance, is it not "neuroplasticity" when the neurotic person tells a joke, sees that no one laughs, and in the future becomes anxious or socially avoidant whenever reminded of the topic of the joke, the people who didn't laugh, and all kinds of other stimuli only loosely related to the original situation? Negative emotional reactivity enhances learning of new threats. Without knowing the science, I suspect it's more like the antidepressants decrease the salience of signaling around negative memories/perceptions of threat or futility, and that frees up mental space to focus on other things, which can lead to a period of learning positive new behaviors and ways of seeing the world under the right circumstances.

But under the wrong circumstances, where there isn't much positive in the past or present to take the space of the down-regulated mental activity, or when the person has no alternate skills for taking advantage of their environment (for instance, no relationship skills that aren't based in negative emotions), the person just feels flat and dull and certainly does not get any better at learning.

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"...Depression and anxiety appear to involve a shift in how a person processes emotionally significant information...". Whatever is salient , that is, whatever correlates to the salience network for longer than a few minutes, is an ideal physical definition of value-formation; not neurotransmitters.

I'm beginning to endorse the view that mental disorders, in their essence, are no more than misplaced (unobtainable) values and the pathological routines & rituals people erect in pursuit of those values. They are wish-fulfillment disorders.

All the complexity, comorbidity, severity, dynamisms, and so forth that psychiatry wants to use as a competing hypothesis against Freud are merely non-pathological features of the mind. That a person is "highly dynamic" or "highly rigid" in their presentation has nothing at all to do with mental disorder, causally speaking. The latter are merely features of a person's own becoming, not the mental disorder. As well, that a person is highly comorbid or complex, for example, is merely evidence of how many cognitive strategies they're able to deploy to chase said misplaced values. Were one to undergo mania every month, for example, this is merely because a misplaced value precedes their choosing to break away from their non-manic routines to go into this state, because mania produces creative states, and creative states are useful means of chasing unobtainable values.

Never in my life would I ever thought i'd agree with Freud.

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