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Randolph Nesse's avatar

I am so glad you are getting good comments from experts, Awais. However, some seem to think that vulnerability to a disorder that results from a cliff edged fitness function implies selection for alleles that increase the risk of schizophrenia or that there should be alleles with strong effects. The distinctiveness of cliff edge explanations is that the alleles that influence vulnerability should be net neutral re fitness as a result of epistasis and developmental variation that influences the position of the cliff for an individual, consistent with the massive polygenicity and tiny effects from each allele with mostly purifying selection. See Mitteroecker, P., & Merola, G. P. (2024). The cliff edge model of the evolution of schizophrenia: Mathematical, epidemiological, and genetic evidence. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, 160, 105636. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neubiorev.2024.105636

The reason I have put this explanation on hold is that it does require some specific TRAIT whose increasing values yield rapidly increasing fitness that then collapses if the values go too high. I can't see such a trait in the case of schizophrenia. I think cliff edge effects are likely to be important mostly in cases where there has been strong selection on both sides of a tradeoff, as posited by Steve Frank in Frank, S. A. (2023). Disease from opposing forces in regulatory control. Evolution, Medicine, and Public Health, 11(1), 348–352. https://doi.org/10.1093/emph/eoad033

Also, my confidence that a wrenching transition offers a better explanation comes from new data finding that alleles that increase risk are older while those that reduce risk are newer. I would love to hear what geneticists make of these findings.

Liu, C., Everall, I., Pantelis, C., & Bousman, C. (2019). Interrogating the Evolutionary Paradox of Schizophrenia: A Novel Framework and Evidence Supporting Recent Negative Selection of Schizophrenia Risk Alleles. Frontiers in Genetics, 10, 389. https://doi.org/10.3389/fgene.2019.00389

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González-Peñas, J., De Hoyos, L., Díaz-Caneja, C. M., Andreu-Bernabeu, Á., Stella, C., Gurriarán, X., Fañanás, L., Bobes, J., González-Pinto, A., Crespo-Facorro, B., Martorell, L., Vilella, E., Muntané, G., Molto, M. D., Gonzalez-Piqueras, J. C., Parellada, M., Arango, C., & Costas, J. (2023). Recent natural selection conferred protection against schizophrenia by non-antagonistic pleiotropy. Scientific Reports, 13(1), 15500. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-023-42578-0

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Michael Atkinson's avatar

Dr. Aftab and all,

Did you already and can you understand like some people always have that dinosaur fossils alone, being millions of years old, disprove the legitimacy of any and all of those fake, man-made political labels, books, symbols, and buildings? Can you understand how and why electronic voting machines have never been valid? Has anyone pointed out to you what a "semite" is even? Naturally, people with sound minds will and should continue educating others about those already-long-known realities alone.

Michael

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