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Giovanni Colella's avatar

Awais, good work, I like how you keep the description observing separate from what clinically we "feel" about it. In psychiatry have needed this discipline for a long time, and the multi-spatial dimension you build around it is a good, stable reference that a clinician can actually use operationally, in a very different way from the way we are using it today. I like it, and I'm with you on the whole program. I also like the coordinated system because it anchors the field on the center of the fact that schizophrenia is a category, and you make a good case for that. Bravo!

Now allow me offer constructive feedback on a piece that I think is missing. I look at the six axes, and I see that five of them are entirely inside the person. The sixth, called Functional Impairment, is a deficit that the patient carries around, but not something that lives in the space that is in between the person and their social construct, their housing, their relationships, their work, their families, the people they love. There's no access for a social context anywhere in this system.

If with epilepsy all we envy about is the EEG the pull towards finding a physical correlate keeps bringing the social off the table. But I think you would agree that the social is where a lot of the outcome actually lives. We see it in the Trieste tradition, in the Clubhouse model, how they are able to move people towards real function, even though the biology is a mystery, and the social determinants literature is now pointing strongly the same way. In your axis the thing that predicts long-term function is staying outside this map.

Here's my ask: could you consider social context and social recovery as a dimension in its own right, putting it alongside symptoms and cognition instead of folding it into one category called Functional Impairment? If the psychosis lives in a multi-dimensional space, we're missing the coordinate of the person's world. Putting it back in the picture makes the whole model stronger and not softer. I would love to see you take that dimension as one axis further. To be fair, I know you're one of the few people in this debate who will give the social its due, and I think this is what the framework is asking for.

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I like this idea. Its something I've been thinking a lot about lately. Setting Robert Post amd Geschwind aside, is there something to be learnt from the classificatory system of epilepsy? I think the answer is yes. It even allows for the separation of different kinds of psychosis just as there are different forms of seizure.

The only issue that I see is psychopathology itself. Would something be lost?

My idea is that at this point in time what is needed are multiple competing classificatory systems. Ideally they should be robust, defensible and widely used. Having a number of high quality methods for coding, annotating and classifying phenomenon allows for a good visualisation of the data helping to surface patterns.

A single dominant system like the DSM surfaces only a narrow slice of the data. Flexibility is needed. We went down the wrong road trying to standardise things too much.

The competitors that have gained popularity are more ancillary psychological and social explanations. That is fine but we need competitors that are based on biology to create an even playing field.

Allowing people to "play" around with different classificatory systems is my mind an excellent idea, particularly if the systems are of a high quality.

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