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Kathleen Weber's avatar

When I was getting on SSRI's I had a bad reaction to Zoloft. It made me feel jazzed and made sleep onset difficult. Fortunately, citalopram works great for me. But that experience was enough to prove to me that these medications have different impacts on different people.

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Thomas Armstrong's avatar

Dr. Aftab, I wonder what you think of the claims of mind-body medicine / Pain Reprocessing Therapy practitioners like Howard Shubiner, who have gone from somewhat fringe toward mainstream through their Boulder back pain study (Ashar et a., 2022, JAMA Psych). In particular, I wonder if you think some of the discontinuation symptoms could be, in their terms, the brain continuing to maintain the symptoms (e.g., the sexual dysfunction side-effects) after the original causes pass or nocebo effects based on imagined "strain on the body" to quote the person micro-tapering from the "Surviving Antidepressants" forum (which may be a nocebo induction in itself). In the case of the persisting sexual dysfunction symptoms, this would be another kind of "physician disbelief," but one that would suggest something "real" going on besides persisting depression, and it would suggest a treatment (PRT or another CBT variant for somatic symptom disorders, perhaps combined with sexual dysfunction therapy elements). I guess your answer is in the op-ed--we need research on discontinuation to address these questions. That said, I would be interested in any thoughts you have on the Sarno/Shubiner/PRT/mind-body medicine movement, because they make strong claims about conditions/symptoms being psychogenic ("mind-body"; "neuroplastic"), and they are aggressively disseminating their perspective and treatment approach (documentary, book timed with publication of study, coaching certifications, etc.).

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